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  • #16
    Re: Tow bar/Trailer for smart car

    It's obviously not illegal to tow with a smart otherwise they would not be able to sell them as type specific, surely? but I think you have to be sensible on towing weights. Apparently, so I was told by a company today, a smart fortwo weighs in at approx 900kg, so you would have to keep to at least 50% below that (I think that is standard to most towing laws, but don't take my word for that). As I don't intend to do anything more than 150kg and tow a tiny motorcycle approved trailer (freewheel international) or carry a bicycle, surely that must be o.k. The company that I've bought the towbar from told me not to tow anything too heavy because it will rip the back end off...sounds logical!! also, the car will soon let you know, because it will simply not pull, let alone stop...shriek!!!!

    Just had a look on the NTTA site and found this:Trailer Maximum Weights

    Type 01: unbraked trailers - max. 750kg gross trailer weight or half the towing vehicle's kerb weight - whichever is less.

    Type 02: trailers on overrun brakes - max. 3500kg gross trailer weight

    1982 regulations demand that all trailers, including unbraked ones, must be clearly marked with their maximum gross weight in kg. This may be checked at any time by the police at a weighbridge. Since 1st January 1997, all unbraked trailer plates must show the year of manufacture


    and it still doesn't make any sense, hope I haven't just bought something that is totally illegal!! I did ask if it would invalidate my insurance when I bought it and they said no.....
    Last edited by Rainbow; 19-09-08, 04:51 PM. Reason: extra info

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    • #17
      Re: Tow bar/Trailer for smart car

      Just been on another site....ooops sorry, and they say you are allowed to carry 100kg in a Smart that has two people in it. So, they also say that it is adviseable to tow NO more than 100kg and even at that weight not all the time because of the pressure on the clutch...... so that's it, I'll only be carrying a bicycle on my new super expensive towhitch...:frown:

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      • #18
        Re: Tow bar/Trailer for smart car

        Im sorry to say towing in a smart is not legal full stop! The car MUST be registered and certified an manufacture with weights marked. Ignorance is not an excuse. If you hit and kill someone or have a crash you will not have a leg to stand on. You may as well not even insure it.

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        • #19
          Re: Tow bar/Trailer for smart car

          Look like it's an expensive cycle rack then.....I take it I can legally carry a bicycle?! Wish I'd known all this before, I wouldn't be £300 short then...ah well, have to put it down to a very expensive learning curve..... It's funny though, because I can legally tow with my Harley trike...?? very strange legislation.....

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          • #20
            Re: Tow bar/Trailer for smart car

            Originally posted by Rainbow View Post
            Look like it's an expensive cycle rack then.....I take it I can legally carry a bicycle?! Wish I'd known all this before, I wouldn't be £300 short then...ah well, have to put it down to a very expensive learning curve..... It's funny though, because I can legally tow with my Harley trike...?? very strange legislation.....
            where are you? If in the UK it is illegal, but that doesn't mean to say you can't!
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            • #21
              Re: Tow bar/Trailer for smart car

              Yep, I'm in the Uk. Just found out some more info, must check to see if the Towbar that I have purchased is TUV approved! Then I will have some legal back up with VOSA and the DOT....apparently. I have asked the suppliers for proof of this. Whatever happens, I need to have the towbar to carry my bicycle and still retain access to the rear hatch on my Smartie, I don't want an 'A'frame carrier. I also need the electrics to the hitch wired in, in case I need to use a trailer board over the bicycle, for good visible braking! As long as I don't 'carry' over 100kg.....it's appears covered!! :thanx:

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              • #22
                Re: Tow bar/Trailer for smart car

                Here we go again!!!!!!!!!!!!!:goodlk:

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                • #23
                  Re: Tow bar/Trailer for smart car

                  I did say 'CARRY' 100kg in my Smart.....carrying isn't towing and the towbar mounting points are in the same place as the Smart 'A' frame bicycle mounting points. It is not illegal to 'FIT' a tow bar, if it's not towing anything. I would not even have to wire it up?! maybe I'll mount a nice floral arrangement.....IT IS BEING USED FOR A BICYCLE RACK. NOT to pull anything......:star: now....where's my anorak?!

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                  • #24
                    Re: Tow bar/Trailer for smart car

                    Originally posted by Rainbow View Post
                    I did say 'CARRY' 100kg in my Smart.....carrying isn't towing and the towbar mounting points are in the same place as the Smart 'A' frame bicycle mounting points. It is not illegal to 'FIT' a tow bar, if it's not towing anything. I would not even have to wire it up?! maybe I'll mount a nice floral arrangement.....IT IS BEING USED FOR A BICYCLE RACK. NOT to pull anything......:star: now....where's my anorak?!
                    you're wrong! I'm sorry to say that any car made after 1998 must be fitted with an authorised towbar made to fit the specific mounting points as designed by the manufacturer and the towbar must be plated as such. The car must also be European Whole Vehicle Type Approved for towing and the smart has neither approved and designed mounts for a towbar or EWVT Approved for towing. Therefore it is illegal to fit a towbar, whether it is used for towing or not.

                    However, no one has been prosecuted yet but I bet you that if the towbar/cycle carrier is proven to be the cause of an accident that your insurance will be invalidated.

                    The law is often an ass but it is the law!

                    Fit one, inform your insurance company, get their answer in writing and take care while using said towbar but do expect some comeback if you end up in a multi-million pound personal injury claim while using the towbar. Your insurance company mey be less keen to provide cover if it faces losing hundreds of thousands or even millions of pounds.

                    I'm not saying you can't and I like the diversity of seeing smarts towing but YOU must be aware that towing is illegal and that fitting a non-approved towbar (and this must comply with UK law, not German) is also illegal.
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                    • #25
                      Re: Tow bar/Trailer for smart car

                      Did I actually also mention that there may be in excess of 100kg of weight in just my handbag alone..... Where is that picture of a can of worms....I'm actually starting to wonder if anything on my car is type approved....what if I put on any weight!

                      Seriously though, I have taken onboard all the advice given, with thanks.

                      P.S. as a codicil thought I'd add, spoke to my Insurance Broker today and he contacted my Insurance Company. Good news, they have confirmed that they have no problem with me using an 'aftermarket' unofficial tow bar on the Smart to use for a bicycle rack support. Not sure if other companies would be as obliging, but I'm definitely pleased......and names, numbers and teams were recorded!!
                      Last edited by Rainbow; 22-09-08, 05:32 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Tow bar/Trailer for smart car

                        Do you think this would be pushing it a bit?!!



                        Only teasing guys...live long and prosper.....:thanx:

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