Warning: ACS Cars in Accrington

[wh666]

Re: Warning: ACS Cars in Accrington

What annoys me, as I've swapped a lot of cars before is, that buyers seem to dislike honesty/full briefings.

I had a peugeot 306 that took ages on ebay to sell and when it did, I got less than others seemed to. Instead of putting one line of text about it though, I put all the regular maintenance it had had done, what might need doing in the future, what doesn't need worrying about, etc etc. I always try to be honest, maybe that's where I am going wrong :p Seriously though, I'd prefer not to muck someone about.

Seems the more information you give, the more people switch off. Annoys me people that don't read. Like when I went to sell my auto mx-5, it said in the info, automatic! So someone bids and wins, comes to collect and then walks when they see it is an auto box, it's the first line in the description!



Anyway good luck sorting out those charlatans PC.

[baggpus]

Re: Warning: ACS Cars in Accrington

Just before they do can I wish you good luck and be sure to tell us how it all ends please

[problemchild1976]

Re: Warning: ACS Cars in Accrington

Thanks guys, your help has allowed me to track done contact details and routes to claim my money back and I think as you have set out, I have enough images and evidence to put a very good case together.

Can a moderator please now lock this thread until I have completed the legal action.

Thanks

JJ

[problemchild1976]

Re: Warning: ACS Cars in Accrington

haha - i'm not closing any doors yet.

lets see how my routes of investigation go.....

[Thrumbleux]

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Mr Schmitt offers good advice. I'd take it.

You have been treated badly JJ, but you risk losing a lot more. Learn a little cynicism for your future dealings. The world isn't always nice - know it.

[Messerschmitt Owner]

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Yup - I have photos of a number of bits.

You get all costs back at the end (if you win)

I've given then 7 days to respond.

JJ

well, show us the pics then!

You don't get all costs back - you get a proportion of the monetary value that may go to 100% but pretty much nothing for your time and effort. It'll cost £600 or so to get to the stage that you may win the case.


I'd walk away, I really would (while using their telephone numbers for some spoof adverts)

Next time, I suggest you don't pay a deposit on the assumption that only an idiot* would buy a forfour and therefore the chances of it selling were negligible!

Also, I'd always get it in writing that the deposit would be refundable if the car wasn't up to scratch.

*Other types of buyer are available!

[problemchild1976]

Re: Warning: ACS Cars in Accrington

Yup - I have photos of a number of bits.

You get all costs back at the end (if you win)

I've given then 7 days to respond.

JJ

[Messerschmitt Owner]

Re: Warning: ACS Cars in Accrington

I think the term "mint" is well known.

And being told that the car had no marks on it was a blatant lie.

"in good condition" is open to interpretation yes

These guys seem to know what they are doing..

JJ

did it smell all fresh and mint?

But did you take photos? I'm sorry to say but the cost of small claims court v £200 isn't worth the hassle. Do remember, they can ask for any court case to be moved closer to them, so you may start something in Bristol but expect it to be closer to Manchester. Just walk away, do some internet bad mouthing, advertise something (or lots of things) on Gumtree for them that'll have their phones ringing off the hook - a deceased estate Mk2 RS2000 for £500 should do it, or even an RS Mexico garage find needing restored. Try a copy of Stadium Events for NES, unopened for £50 too ...

I once kept a deposit from a buyer who didn't complete on a sale. He changed his mind! I kept his money.

[baggpus]

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as regards court etc I think if you could prove this was not a one off and a concerted effort to fleece people of their deposit you could well have a case

[Thrumbleux]

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i love this kind of thing

JJ

Quite.

[problemchild1976]

Re: Warning: ACS Cars in Accrington

I think the term "mint" is well known.

And being told that the car had no marks on it was a blatant lie.

"in good condition" is open to interpretation yes

These guys seem to know what they are doing..

JJ

[Messerschmitt Owner]

Re: Warning: ACS Cars in Accrington

I don't know - descriptions are no more than one person's opinion. Did you take photos of said forfour? Hope so, otherwise, it'll be tricky proving anything in a court.

Also, if you intend to go down a court route, it's perhaps not wise to post on here - it will prejudice any hearing.

[baggpus]

Re: Warning: ACS Cars in Accrington

and had you thought about a nice little "rip off " article in the local press ?
am also searching my crime "brain" wondering if you have a case of fraud to report as you paid the deposit on the basis of a description which proved to be a lie - tenuous I know but could be fraud by misrepresentation check with your local crime desk

[problemchild1976]

Re: Warning: ACS Cars in Accrington

Just done some googling based on the 2nd mobile number I have that I got called from when I was 10mins late.

Gave me results of the full company name "Atlantic Car Sales" and according to some Mitsubishi forums, they have been doing this sort of thing since 2010 advertising evo's as "mint" when they clearly aren't and ripping off potential buyers

http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=318979&highlight=atlantic

http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=339997

All evidence

JJ

[problemchild1976]

Re: Warning: ACS Cars in Accrington

already reported to autotrader, trading standards and VOSA

thanks

JJ