Avenue Drivers Club (ADC)

[problemchild1976]

every 2nd sunday of the month......Bristol

http://www.avenuedriversclub.co.uk/index.html

was an ok turn out this weekend (thanks to the nice weather and the close proximity to the cenotaph)















JJ

[Mr T]

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What a lovely eclectic mix of cars.
Love the Lotus Mk1 Cortina & was that A Lotus Sunbeam next to Yellow nissan?

[problemchild1976]

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yup - lovely looking car

JJ

[oldgit]

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nice cars .

i had a citroen ds19 estate in the late 1960,s .

the car i passed my test in 1963 was a ford consul mk2 . [ photo of my consul ] 3 speed / steering columb change

after the citroen i had a ford cortina mk2 gt

might be a interesting tread :- what car did you use to pass car test .

tony [ oldgit ]

[problemchild1976]

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i don\'t think anyone should be allowed to learn to drive in anything other than a driving school car and that everyone MUST have a motorway lesson - but thats just my opinion!

JJ

[fat_rick]

What, no practice driving with non-professionals? It's incredibly expensive for kids to get through the process and then get insured as it is!

[problemchild1976]

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yup!! its like your dad trying to teach you physics from what he was told 30 years ago and what he\'s been making up since

most companies do a package..... 10 lessons and your test! probably costs less than an iphone!!

JJ

[fat_rick]

More like your dad helping you with your physics homework...

How many people do you think pass after only ten total road hours (not ten lessons)? And do you really want people driving solo after only ten supervised hours?

[problemchild1976]

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20 hours should do it (1hour lessons are pointless)

If you need more, then having lessons with a non qualified instructor isnt a great idea!

You go solo in an aircraft after 10 hours

It\\\'s just my opinion but out of my friends, those who drive with their parents learning took 2 tests to pass due to failing on bad habit type things or performing things incorrectly (costing them more in lesson and retest) and i passed first time without a single minute of road driving with my dad (just clutch control on the drive)

It\\\'s not like your dad helping with homework, it\\\'s like your dad sat next to you watching the football while you do your homework randomly shouting equations at you.

What do others think? How many lessons would be suitable balance against driving with dad?

JJ

[oldgit]

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information for PROBLEMCHILD 1976 .

i had a series of lessons with a fully quilfied driving instructor , had the choice of using his car or mine , felt more relaxed driving mine .
passed my car & motorbike test in the same week .

i also took a driving test in a articulated lorry with a driving instructor in thier truck for my heavy goods licence .
also a driving test for public service vehicles / coaches .

ive taken advance driving test in car & trucks .
also a licence for big mobile cranes.

also some companys i worked for use to send me on refresher coarses.
have been driving since i was age 17 , never had a accident in all those years.

i do agree that there should be some form of motorway driving lessons , as in my articulated truck driving
a lot of it was motorway driving & in my time have seen a lot of idiots on the motorway .

tony [ oldgit ]

[problemchild1976]

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the roads are totally different now though - it\'s not about being safer but knowing the beat way to deal with the experience of driving!

Plus I think an intensive instructor course is quicker and helps you learn enter by grouping them closer together.

It\'s just an opinion

If others think that just lessons with dad is ok and then your test then that\'s fine too .

JJ

[MrPoo]

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More like your dad helping you with your physics homework...

How many people do you think pass after only ten total road hours (not ten lessons)? And do you really want people driving solo after only ten supervised hours?

I don't!

Admittedly, my Dad was terrible to sit with, he had a 6 speed so would try and tell me to change up when I was in 5th, he was forever screaming that I was too close to things as he wasn't used to being a passenger (he'll now admit he was wrong, and I'm not!) and would try to pull on the handbrake if he thought I wasn't braking enough. In the end, I gave up learning and came back to it in my 20's, got my friends (including an advance police driver) to supervise me, it was much easier!

I've supervised my sister a few times, and she's fine (but doesn't want to take her test), I just need to prompt her occasionally when I think she's not thought about potential hazards etc. I personally would like to see a minimum number of driving hours brought in, as passing your test and driving in the real world are two entirely different things!

[coolfart]

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the roads are totally different now though - it\'s not about being safer but knowing the beat way to deal with the experience of driving!

Plus I think an intensive instructor course is quicker and helps you learn enter by grouping them closer together.

It\'s just an opinion

If others think that just lessons with dad is ok and then your test then that\'s fine too .

JJ

Sounds good advise for anyone starting out

Having qualified as an ADI at the begining of the year, I can definitely say that anyone NOT having lessons with an instructor now WILL fail!!!......There is a lot more that gets scrutinized on the test, and people without recent experience wont have all the knowledge of what is required to pass. The national pass rate is around 45%, and first-time passes are rare.
I always recommend 2 hour lessons, to get people learning quicker...although the number of hours will vary considerably.....the 'official' DSA figure is that new drivers will need around 40hours of instruction, although if you can afford to do an intensive course over say a week I think you stand a much better chance of passing in a lot shorter time.

BTW......I think this thread may have somehow vered 'slightly' off topic??????

I'm hoping that after Xmas this meet in Bristol may become a regular event for anyone with a smart to attend....nice place for breakfast on a Sunday morning I've heard!!