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  • longdistancecdi
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    Now we all know that Fortwo's can be interesting when it's windy, particually when passing large vehicles so I thought this might be another example of electronics making the new Fortwo safer ?

    "Every car driver will be familiar with risky situations when surprised by strong gusts of wind while overtaking trucks or on bridges. Standard-fit Crosswind Assist is able to defuse such dangerous situations by carrying out specific braking intervention when the vehicle threatens to drift off track. As a result, less countersteering effort is required of the driver. Crosswind Assist is active from 80 km/h when driving straight ahead and in gentle bends. The ESP® indicator lights up in the instrument cluster in response to noticeable intervention by Crosswind Assist"

    WTF - Imagine being in the outside lane of the motorway passing a truck in windy conditions and the "Crosswind Assist" carries out a specific braking intevention ! Unless they mean that it will brake an indivdual wheel without reducing the overall vehicle speed, it has to be a recipes for disaster ?
    Last edited by longdistancecdi; 17-07-14, 06:14 AM.

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  • longdistancecdi
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    Quoting Mercedes "Another distinguishing feature is the automatic start/stop system"

    Fingers crossed that they are using the Renault system and have buried the MHD wreck you engine system ?

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  • Evilution
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    The rear arches are my biggest issue here. Before, if you damaged a rear arch you'd just buy a new panel, now it's a trip to a body shop. There is no reason why smart have changed the design that they stuck with for the last 15 years. Plastic rear arches could have easily been done and would have looked better than the way the rear bumper cuts in to the Tridion at the moment.

    As they made the car wider, surely that increases the chance of damaging a panel.

    I just don't understand their thought process.

  • Evilution
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    There is a 6 speed dual clutch available.

  • Bill
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    I actually quite like it. They've managed to stay avoiding the get out of my way aggressive looks of all the mid sized rep mobiles and kept it friendly looking. It keeps some of the original characteristics, and stays undeniably a smart car. The 450 is still a head turner, but this could be too.

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  • TallOrder
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    The info I read is this link from Twitter...

  • TallOrder
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    Reading the "bumf", there is an auto option (read £1k extra), there are pods (again extra) and prices will start at €11k (or £8681 according to Google). Initial thoughts are that it doesn't look as bad as I was expecting but I'll wait to see one for real before giving a proper verdict Just not sure about the trid being the front of the rear wheel arch...my roadster is pot marked with stone chips there and if its metal that means possible rust... (Just my thoughts) T/O

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  • oldgit
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    look likes it is a manual gearbox , no auto .
    i have several friends who have fortwo smarts , who,s car licence only [ some medical reason ] covers them for a auto car only .
    where do they stand .
    they wont be able to upgrade to a new smart .

    smart are shooting themself in the foot if they dont do a auto version.
    i for one prefer to drive in auto .

    also forfour looks a bit like the fiat 500 L [ large ]

    tony [ oldgit ]
    Last edited by oldgit; 16-07-14, 10:02 PM.

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  • ColSmart
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    And here is the long bonnet view which they have been hiding from us for so long....

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  • cougar7609
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    Just seen them...... fugly is all I can say!

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  • longdistancecdi
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    Jeeze 20 minutes in and they are still ranting on about Hedgehogs !

    Well after 34 minutes we actually got to see the new cars, quite like the new Fortwo and the optional six speed DSG gearbox, not so sure about the Forfour ????
    Last edited by longdistancecdi; 16-07-14, 06:38 PM.

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  • ColSmart
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    Standing by to see the video.
    Last edited by ColSmart; 16-07-14, 06:49 PM.

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  • zimzimmer
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    i think i prefer the looks of the 450.....

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  • cougar7609
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    What a fail! In my eyes it looks like the little poppop cars they have here in France, the ones with a 250cc motorbike engine in them. It doesnt look sporty enough. Positively one of the ugliest cars Ive seen in a long time. The headllights should have been flush like they were in the older versions. The forfour looks like one of the Indian cars, that are cheap as chips and dont have a good reputation. Wheres the pods inside? There will be no temperature gauge again. The air vents in the centre look like some sort of Goth Womans breasts. If those pics are correct then they have really gone and shot themselves in the foot. A Clutch is new, cant say anything negative about that. But the overall design is awful and looks like a company who has never built a car before is trying to break into the market, except mercedes will want more than a fiesta for most of the models, you can bet they wont bring back the diesel. Such a let down!
    Last edited by cougar7609; 16-07-14, 04:13 PM.

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  • Thrumbleux
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    Originally posted by longdistancecdi View Post

    WTF ??? A clutch pedal !!!!!!!!!!
    Quite...

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