New Look ForTwo

[ColSmart]

We know the new fortwo is the same length as the 451 so I can only assume there is some camouflage going on up front.

Hope that you are right evolution, as I would like to see that bonnet a little shorter, to retain the unique shape of the Fortwo, rather than look like the front of a Toyota IQ.

[Evilution]

We know the new fortwo is the same length as the 451 so I can only assume there is some camouflage going on up front.

[ColSmart]

Using the above photo, you can compare sizes.....

[TallOrder]

Apologies if this has been added already, I did try and post it a while ago when I saw it but the current "Empty Response" error stopped me...

Basically from an Autocar article, finally showing the current & 'new' fortwo nose-to-nose.

Still not sure myself...

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[TallOrder]

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[Thrumbleux]

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Making them bigger & more like everything else (especially if they remain with the 'relatively' expensive pricing) will just mean that more people will start to look elsewhere - "ooh look, for less money I can have X and it is still the same size car" etc etc.

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Making them bigger & more like everything else (especially if they remain with the 'relatively' expensive pricing) will just mean that more people will start to look elsewhere - "ooh look, for less money I can have A Renault Twingo and it is still the same car" .

[TallOrder]

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I kind of agree with Ocracoke on this...

I'm a big fan of Smarts (currently on 3rd ForTwo & a Roadster) but a big part of why I liked them was there size & their difference to all other cars out there, even going with the extra costs involved with Merc because it is different. Making them bigger & more like everything else (especially if they remain with the 'relatively' expensive pricing) will just mean that more people will start to look elsewhere - "ooh look, for less money I can have X and it is still the same size car" etc etc.

I hope I am wrong (I came around to the 'larger for the US market' 451 eventually ), but from all of the things I seen so far, I don't think I will be...as I said on Twitter to SmartUK, pricing will be key to its success this time out.

That's just my thoughts anyway

T/O

[Ocracoke]

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To throw my to two pence into this, I think I will struggle with this Smart series.

With the 450, 451 (bar the engine) and the 452, at least you knew it was a Smart. Chassis, bodywork, everything you could touch was Smart. I know the 454 wasn't entirely like that and perhaps that is the direction (sadly) Smart is going in but even the 454 made a good effort to be a Smart all around.

The 453 just feels like a cost cutting exercise (not without reason I should think) gone too far. I look at the camo pictures and see a Renault, not a Smart. If it doesn't look like a Smart, then to me it isn't. I am sure the engine, chassis and all the stuff that makes it "be a car" is good and very EU-compliant but did it really have to go this way? You don't buy a Smart to be normal and the 453 just feels (externally at any rate)... normal.

When they take the camo off, I am hoping that they, at least, kept to the damn design philosophy and have a Tridion + plastic panels (the video certainly suggested that at there is a Tridion). If there isn't, then Smart as we know it has died a death.

EDIT: After watching a video of it being stress tested, it has grown on me a little. I think I could accept it so long as I think boxy 451. Still must have a Tridion and plastic panels though.

[Rodzter]

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No longer a "Smart" car, it's now "just" a small car. Ingenuity at Smart probably died a long time ago (along with it' semi-independence), sad really. So hope it's more interesting to drive than it looks (guess the fun/individuality could be squeezed out of that too).

P.S God knows what a new Roadster would look like, if it'll ever appear now.

[ajprice]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK7mIve8f5Y

Video of the ForTwo and ForFour with the camo on.

Starting to get the feeling now that the ForFour won't be much more than a Twingo with a different lights and front end .

When the doors open, metallic orange body and silver doors??

[ajprice]

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Another pic of the Twingo boot

[Thrumbleux]

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I think the whole thing with this new pedestrian protection measures is nothing hard beneath the skin that can injure. A (spare) wheel rim is probably classed as 'hard'.

Unfortunately, from now on until the death of the motor car or elimination of stupid pedestrians (and they've been thrown a lifeline though it would be a lynching rope if it were up to me) we're saddled with ugly cars. Shame.

[Evilution]

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Unfortunately it's there only for pedestrian protection. Hopefully they'll be sensible and put a spare wheel in there, I did mention it last year to some guys who work for smart in Hambach.

[ColSmart]

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So at last we know the next Fortwo will have a rear engine again. Makes you wonder what all the bonnet space is for

[ckCDi]

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I think it looks really good, especially the sporty one (tce?).

A bit too plasticky on the inside...


The tce one should be pretty nippy.