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    If I fasten a camera to my car for the France tour to video it can I put it straight through to the laptop and use that HD to store the video of am I likely to damage the HD on bumpy roads? Also, any ideas on best placement - high or low?

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    Chances are you won't 'damage' the HD, but it very much depends on how 'bumpily' you drive.

    Even if you don't cause the recording to glitch (which will result in a second or so of pixelated/frozen footage) you may end up with something like this:

    or this:
    http://www.ssontech.com/content/skool.mov

    These are extreme examples (shot on a Canon HV20) but any CMOS-based camera will exhibit 'the wobbles' to some extent.

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        Hi,
        If your laptop has a solid state HD then no problem!
        Ordinary HD's ar based on a metal disc spinning at high speed with an arm which wipes from the edge to the center to read the data written in rings on the HD. The problem is the arm is less than a hairs thicknesss above it! So any bumps when it's running could make it touch the disc and that produces HD errors and Failures!!!

        Not a good idea!

        Best idea, get a couple of large capacity SD cards to put in the camera and then transfer data when you stop for petrol.

        Regards,

        John

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        • #5
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          I don't know whereabouts in France you're going but bear in mind that most French roads are much better maintained than the cr4p we put up with in the UK

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            All over mate all over!

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by miami gulf View Post
              All over mate all over!
              Much better all over! Towns can be a bit bumpy sometimes they still use the old cobblestones or pave

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              • #8
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                I have pretty much decided to get one of these - they shoot decent-looking video and tie it in to a GPS log of where you were at all times .

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by fat_rick View Post
                  I have pretty much decided to get one of these
                  Nice choice, I like the GPS integration feature and G force monitor. Wish my camera did that too. Apparently many of the newer models do the GPS thing. So as a "Driver Protection" system, where do mount them? Looking forward or backward? I think "insurance" wise, it's always your arse you need to protect (as with life in general) :-)
                  ¿Price?

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by heinkeljb View Post
                    Hi,
                    If your laptop has a solid state HD then no problem!
                    Ordinary HD's ar based on a metal disc spinning at high speed with an arm which wipes from the edge to the center to read the data written in rings on the HD. The problem is the arm is less than a hairs thicknesss above it! So any bumps when it's running could make it touch the disc and that produces HD errors and Failures!!!

                    Not a good idea!

                    Best idea, get a couple of large capacity SD cards to put in the camera and then transfer data when you stop for petrol.

                    Regards,

                    John
                    Most HDs use glass platters now, they can't make the metal ones flat enough!

                    Physically smaller HDs are more shock resistant than big ones, so laptop 2.5" drives are better than desktop 3.5" ones, and 1.8" and 1" portable drives (in MP3 players etc) are even more sturdy.

                    As an example, the Hitachi Travelstar 7K500 is a 2.5" laptop drive and is rated to 400G operating and 1000G non-operating. If you put the laptop on the passenger seat, or on the floor on a piece of foam, then it will never experience shocks anywhere near this level. It would of course be prudent for the OP to check the data sheet for the drive in their laptop.

                    But your advice to get large SD cards and transfer to the HD periodically is good too. It reduces the risk of a catastrophe.

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                    • #11
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                      I have a 16GB PCMCIA card which i use when recording video Much better and safer than the 3 external HDs i have fragged on potholes

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by fat_rick View Post
                        I have pretty much decided to get one of these - they shoot decent-looking video and tie it in to a GPS log of where you were at all times .
                        Nice idea Rick. Looks expensive?

                        Am I right in thinking that most netbooks/webbooks have a solid-state hard drive? (if thats the right description? ie no moving parts?)

                        I have purchased a reasonable quality 'action camera' that can also be taken out the car for use on any other areas we view away from the cars that runs on SD cards & hopefully can link straight through to my netbook when I get round to sorting it all out!

                        Hope to get it sorted & give it a trial run at the TRN Activity Day in April, Rick.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by smartsparks View Post
                          Am I right in thinking that most netbooks/webbooks have a solid-state hard drive? (if thats the right description? ie no moving parts?)
                          Depends on the size of it, the first to start using SSD's really were asus with the little 701.
                          It will obviously specifically state in the blurb it has a SSD or conventional HD, but you can buy a replacement SATA SSD to slot into a unit with a conventional SATA hard drive anyway. Some fit via a miniPCI connection, but these can still be got.
                          Smaller storage size than conventional drives , but more flexible cos of their ruggedness

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by smartsparks View Post
                            Am I right in thinking that most netbooks/webbooks have a solid-state hard drive? (if thats the right description? ie no moving parts?)
                            Genral rule of thumb is to look at the disk size - <80GB will be Solid State, >=80GB will be spinning disc. Of course this will change as time progresses.

                            Listen closely to your netbook as it boot up (put your ear against the case), you will always hear a fan, but you may be able to hear an irregular clicking which would be a regular hard drive. No additional noise probably means an SSD.

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                            • #15
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                              Rubbish. Normal HDs should be fine, Yes there is a risk there but it is rare for it to happen even in a car. though a 2.5" put up with more abuse.

                              I had a Computer running in my old car connected to a 7" touch screen display and it had a 2.5" 80Gb HD in it. The HD was is that for a year and is now in a external caddy in the car (under the seat) connected to the stereo been using it like this for 2 years and I have never had any problems

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