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    Just got my first Smart ForTwo and have been looking at the replacement sumps which include a drain plug. :newbie:
    Has anyone fitted one, I am concerned with how much thread is a available for the drain plug?

  • #2
    Re: After Market Sumps

    Hi & to the mad world of Smart.
    Here are a couple of places that sell the sump with a drain plug. I personally haven't seen one in the flesh, but if you click the photo in the link it gives a close-up shot & it looks quite well modified.:goodlk:

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    • #3
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      your going to have to suck the oil out to change the sump, which kinda makes the conversion pointless in my mind.

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      • #4
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        Or just drill a hole in the old one!

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by miami gulf View Post
          Or just drill a hole in the old one!
          sod that, hammer the ******* with a nail!
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          • #6
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            just not a 6 inch one!

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by lalli_d1 View Post
              your going to have to suck the oil out to change the sump, which kinda makes the conversion pointless in my mind.
              Maybe for the 1st service but I agree with the above. I'll be fitting a new sump pan and I'll just puncture the old one.

              We (Smartmods.co.uk) should be selling a sump pan with drain plug very shortly. As always, it'll be better designed than the others you can buy and it'll be cheaper. Currently working on a nice little twist on the design which should make it much easier to fit.

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              • #8
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                i sould have really made myself clear.
                your going to have to buy the tool to suck the oil out which will cost arround £10-£50 depending on what you get, then your going to buy the sump with the drain plug, so the oil sucker is going to be gathering cob webs, and will be money wasted.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by lalli_d1 View Post
                  i sould have really made myself clear.
                  your going to have to buy the tool to suck the oil out which will cost arround £10-£50 depending on what you get, then your going to buy the sump with the drain plug, so the oil sucker is going to be gathering cob webs, and will be money wasted.
                  no - we're gonna knock a hole in the bottom of the old sump and drain it that way

                  What you haven't realised is that a number of sumps get changed when they pin-hole! In which case, there won't be much oil in it anyway!

                  I'm in the middle of scrapping a car just now - to get the bits I want, I don;t care if some bits I don't need get damaged in the process!

                  Angle grinders and cars - fabulous fun!
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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by Messerschmitt Owner View Post
                    no - we're gonna knock a hole in the bottom of the old sump and drain it that way

                    What you haven't realised is that a number of sumps get changed when they pin-hole! In which case, there won't be much oil in it anyway!

                    I'm in the middle of scrapping a car just now - to get the bits I want, I don;t care if some bits I don't need get damaged in the process!

                    Angle grinders and cars - fabulous fun!
                    thats why i greased my city coupes sump, and my forfours. just incase it corroded to the point it started leaking

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                    • #11
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                      Both the sump with a drain and an oil removal pump are single purchase items so in the long run it's cheaper to buy the pump and it's cleaner, however it's not as efficient at removing the oil, you can't use engine flush and is a slower process.

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by Evilution View Post
                        Both the sump with a drain and an oil removal pump are single purchase items so in the long run it's cheaper to buy the pump and it's cleaner, however it's not as efficient at removing the oil, you can't use engine flush and is a slower process.
                        i used to use engine flush in my city coupe.
                        added the flush, run it, suck the oil out, fill with oil, run again, suck, and fill with fresh oil.

                        each to here own though i suppose

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                        • #13
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                          Be aware that the threaded boss on most modified sumps form a mini Hoover dam leaving lots of oil behind.

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by lalli_d1 View Post
                            i used to use engine flush in my city coupe.
                            added the flush, run it, suck the oil out, fill with oil, run again, suck, and fill with fresh oil.

                            each to here own though i suppose
                            Considering you can only get 90% of the oil out using a pump and that engine flush loosens a lot or crud from the engine, you probably have a lot of loose crud and engine flush still running around the engine because you won't have got it all out.

                            Originally posted by tolsen View Post
                            Be aware that the threaded boss on most modified sumps form a mini Hoover dam leaving lots of oil behind.
                            Agreed, hence the redesign. Ours will be chamferred and surface mounted, and properly rust protected.

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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by Evilution View Post
                              Agreed, hence the redesign. Ours will be chamferred and surface mounted, and properly rust protected.
                              I have fitted a plastic sump.

                              Made out of fibre reinforced nylon. No chance it will rust. Drainage is best in class.

                              Total cost was only 80 pounds including delivery. Came with German fitting instructions, sealant, 5 spare washers, stainless steel bolts and a brand new original oil filter.

                              Heat loss from the plastic pan is about half that of a steel pan so engine may heat up marginally faster. Not much of any issue for a petrol but a great bonus for a cold running Cdi.

                              There also appears to be less noise from engine.

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