Engine Swap... N/A to Turbo

[Big Performance]

Re: Engine Swap... N/A to Turbo

Torque from memory was approx 170Nm

[Big Performance]

Re: Engine Swap... N/A to Turbo

Will be doing another one in February chaps so you are welcome to pop down to see it BUT no cameras to be used

[Ferrina]

Re: Engine Swap... N/A to Turbo

Would be interested to see a conversion on a car mate.

[maggi112]

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What I'm doing. I don't care if it's not quite the same power/torque as the turbos can technically produce. The delivery and the NOISE is what I want Ian

What levels of torque did you get from that btw?

[Big Performance]

Re: Engine Swap... N/A to Turbo

Or do what we did and supercharge the 61/71 versions

125bhp and great fun

You can then keep your car but have way more torque and power

[Ferrina]

Re: Engine Swap... N/A to Turbo

Let's stick to the actual question people.

I raised the initial question to see if it would be more feasable to upgrade my engine or get a new car.

If you feel the need for a turbo, then get a new car. Electric windows are standard across the range but aircon is an option on the pulse, so get an 84bhp pulse or get one of these!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj2iV...layer_embedded

[lalli_d1]

Re: Engine Swap... N/A to Turbo

benjy, youd be better off buying a turbo.
youd have to buy a new engine, new wiring harness, driveshafts, gearbox (if there is a diffrence between the N/A and turbo modles), new ECU and then have some one fit it all and program the new ECU will add up to thousands! and then letting the DVLA know of the new engine and the insurance premiums going up as its a modification as the car is no longer standard even though it has another 'Smart' engine
trust me buying a passion as the pulse doesnt have the turbo option (corect me if im wrong) will be cheaper. to be honest i dont know why your worrying about PXing it after all you did get your 451 for nawt.
A/C i think is standard on the passion (again correct me if im wrong) and so are electric windows but its like any car, things will go wrong.
i want more umpff from my little 1.1 forfour, which i know is going to be difficult as there arnt may mod for the 1.1 engine that are reasonably priced, and have been suggested by Mr BIG to swap the engine for a 1.5 engine, and it really did work out cheaper buying a new car altogether!

[Ferrina]

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No no no no!
for a start the Yank N/A engine has the same compression ratio as our turbo engine, secondly the exhaust system is WAY different to ours, thirdly even when they throw thousands of bucks at a turbo system it rarely get close to a Euro stock turbo 451.

I stand corrected, thanks. I thought the yank gearbox was the only change because they have to have park position?

So all those Doug Thornley headers, etc are useless on Euro spec cars?

[benjy_b]

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I don't want air con or electric windows as 1, they are another thing to go wrong. 2, air con has to be regulary maintained/gassed.

[benjy_b]

Re: Engine Swap... N/A to Turbo

Let's stick to the actual question people.

I raised the initial question to see if it would be more feasable to upgrade my engine or get a new car.

[problemchild1976]

Re: Engine Swap... N/A to Turbo

Buy a car with all that fitted means I have to pay the initial premium to then remove what I don't want. Working from basic up, I can choose what I want. I won the car, I didn't have a choice on what model, they kindly gave me the 61bhp pure.

I'm confused! Can you clarify??

Are you building a lightweight race version??

Just wondering why you don't want/need aircon etc

Also, the "premium" is probably not much (£500) but t would cost you a few thousand to swap out the engine (in purchasing a new engine, parts, time and trouble)

JJ

[Evilution]

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then remove what I don't want.

Why would you bother removing what you don't use?
Stop being so dramatic. If you want the turbo version, PX the one you got for free and get a turbo one.

There is a kit from Smartmadness in the states to turbo a 71bhp engine. But, it doesn't mention lowering the compression ration by means of different pistons or a thicker head gasket.

No no no no!
for a start the Yank N/A engine has the same compression ratio as our turbo engine, secondly the exhaust system is WAY different to ours, thirdly even when they throw thousands of bucks at a turbo system it rarely get close to a Euro stock turbo 451.

[MrPoo]

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Yeah, I thought about that, however you get all the faff (air con, electric windows, power steering, heated seats) when you buy a pulse or passion, I like the basic pure.

But you don't..........you only get electric windows and aircon as standard, power steering is a rarely selected option. The pure has been discontinued now.

[Ferrina]

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I'd be happy with 75bhp, just a tad more torque and a decent sound. If I wanted a quick turbo car, I'd have bought a Focus or TT or something. The 451 suits my needs. I've got my Forfour cdi and that's fun.

[maggi112]

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Can't wait to see that neil!

Personally, I can't stand turbo cars to drive. So I went for a 71 also. I've set myself a target of 130bhp. I'm going to get as much as I can out of it whilst remaining n/a which i think nearer 90bhp is achievable with some serious work and after that I'm going supercharged. Already got savings going for that one! So if it's what you wanna do, I say go for it. But it would be much easier to find a turbo car